Uncensored Justice System Discussion

JUSTICE1st · Joined: 13 Dec 2007 Posts: 715 Location: USA

In view of the fact that the San Diego DA's Office has dropped all charges against Cindy and she has thankfully been released from jail, I think it's time to start asking questions about these so-called "lost or destroyed" samples that were tested only recently.

Obviously, they were neither lost nor destroyed as was previously claimed, so the polite question now is WHERE WERE THEY? The IMpolite question is WHO was hiding them? I have a strong suspicion who, but if the San Diego DA's office wants to gain a little more credibility than they have at this point, they should have an outsider look into the matter. And the sooner, the better.

Cindy Sommer spent 876 days in jail for a so-called "crime" that we now know NEVER OCCURRED! She was innocent of ANY criminal wrongdoing; in fact there was NO criminal wrongdoing! That should never be forgotten, nor should the San Diego DA's office be allowed to keep covering up for their own sloppy and careless handling of Cindy's case.

If they are allowed to just sweep her case under the rug with their idiotic and obviously self-serving claim that "justice was served," this kind of prosecutorial misconduct will continue. And another innocent person just like Cindy will be another victim of it. That's not the kind of District Attorney's office I would support or vote to keep in office.

As citizens, we should all DEMAND, not just ask, that our District Attorney's offices nationwide start getting more responsible and make absolutely sure they have a strong criminal case where they can PROVE, beyond a reasonable doubt, that a crime did in fact take place, and that the person accused can be PROVEN guilty as well. If we fail to do this, if we fail to hold ALL our DA's accountable for the mistakes they make, then we will have exactly what banana republics like China and Cuba (to name just two) have; justice for none and tyranny for all.

J Cool

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"We must remember, always, that accusation is not proof, and conviction depends on evidence and due process of law."
EDWARD R. MURROW, 1954

JUSTICE1st · Joined: 13 Dec 2007 Posts: 715 Location: USA

I was beginning to believe I was the only one to have serious thoughts about prosecutorial misconduct, but after reading some of the posts on Cindy's case at the "IN SESSION" boards today, I'm relieved to know I'm NOT the only one! Zambeste

For any of you who are still posting at IN SESSION, can you persuade any of those posters to come over here as well? I don't think it would be a "conflict of interest" to post at both boards. Would it? Zambeste cu gura deschisa

J

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"We must remember, always, that accusation is not proof, and conviction depends on evidence and due process of law."
EDWARD R. MURROW, 1954

Pia · Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 11:09 pm Post subject:

Justice I have told several about this site. Some already do read/post here though. Clipeste din ochi

Have you ever read Cindy's site?
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Justice is conscience, not a personal conscience but the conscience of the whole of humanity. Those who clearly recognize the voice of their own conscience usually recognize also the voice of justice.
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SaberGal · Joined: 12 Dec 2007 Posts: 349 Location: Oregon

JUSTICE1st · Joined: 13 Dec 2007 Posts: 715 Location: USA

Pia · Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 12:13 am Post subject:

JUSTICE1st · Joined: 13 Dec 2007 Posts: 715 Location: USA

JUSTICE1st · Joined: 13 Dec 2007 Posts: 715 Location: USA

Oops, I forgot to mention one thing; the blogs have to be NON-I.S. I tried several times, and it's pointless, I'm not being allowed back onto I.S., so I just gave up.

However, if there are other online blogs discussing Cindy's case that don't have any connection with I.S., please send me those. I would like to participate there as well. Thanks! Zambeste cu gura deschisa

J

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"We must remember, always, that accusation is not proof, and conviction depends on evidence and due process of law."
EDWARD R. MURROW, 1954

BillE · Joined: 14 Dec 2007 Posts: 4 Location: Chicago NW Suburbs

BillE · Joined: 14 Dec 2007 Posts: 4 Location: Chicago NW Suburbs

Hi All,

I am copying my own post from I.S board on May 7. I hope I am not violating any copyright rules as this is my own work. Anyway I am editing the name of the poster to whom I was responding so as not to cause any issues on this board.
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I acknowledge your right to your own opinion S.....i, but I just feel that I must challenge you to rethink your position. It is my observation that you have formed this opinion based only upon your own personal emotional reasons, for there are no known facts that can point to such a conclusion. In light of the fact that it has been conclusively proven no crime was even committed, I would be very interested to know how you form the opinion that "she did it." As another poster said, "Did what?"

I watched the hearing during which the charges were dropped. The judge's closing and clarifying remark to LG was that he was dismissing without prejudice the defense motion to have the charges dropped with prejudice. In other words the judge signalled to the defense that at a date agreeable to both parties he would again entertain the defense motion to dismiss the case with prejudice. We now await this hearing.

I have questioned the evidence of poisoning since Dr. Centeno's testimony during the trial that he had harbored some suspicion that there might exist a problem of contamination. That, for me, sealed my own reasonable doubt, and as I watched the rest of the trial I began to seriously doubt a crime had been committed. When I came to this forum, there were some very astute posters who provided this forum with scientific facts, and invited all of us to do our own research to form our own opinions.

As I read their posts, and did my own research, I came to my own conclusion that there was no crime in the first place, and obviously CS was INNOCENT to me. The DA's testing of "newly" discovered tissues which came back with no elevated levels of any kind of arsenic in any tissues, only served to strengthen my original conclusion (opinion), and lead the DA to drop the charges.

Now I am left to question why such a prosecution ever moved forward. There are many reasons being offered and I personally have not been able to decide for certain the reason. I do look at the actions of the DA's office for answers and continue to be frustrated at what I see is a lack of proactive search for truth in this case. Instead what I observe is a huge CYA effort. And that speaks volumes to me.

I suppose I can be accused of reaching a conclusion about the DA's office in a manner similar to that which they asked the jury and the public to think CS guilty based upon her own post mortem behavior. Hypocrisy?? Nope....I am not convicting the DA's office of anything. I still need facts. Trouble is, I doubt we (the public) will ever know the whole truth (facts) which lead to such a travesty of justice. So at this point I can only reasonably say, I hold a substantial lack of confidence in this particular DA's office.

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Bill

Pia · Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 6:00 pm Post subject:

That was a great post and speaks volumes.
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Justice is conscience, not a personal conscience but the conscience of the whole of humanity. Those who clearly recognize the voice of their own conscience usually recognize also the voice of justice.
Alexander Solzhenitsyn

JUSTICE1st · Joined: 13 Dec 2007 Posts: 715 Location: USA

JUSTICE1st · Joined: 13 Dec 2007 Posts: 715 Location: USA

JUSTICE1st · Joined: 13 Dec 2007 Posts: 715 Location: USA

Pia · Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 4:02 pm Post subject: