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ForensicGuy
Joined: 12 Dec 2007 Posts: 44
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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 5:51 am Post subject: Hotwater, Coldwater, Freshwater |
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Hotwater,
I must say I am happy to have an alternative to Coldwater. I was banned far too many times for referencing how our Founding Fathers set up our country. That strikes me as very strange. I didn't deal with Freshwater very much so I can't say much.
I am just happy to have a place where "The Truth" can be communicated. I look forward to seeing this discussion forum grow.
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Hotwater

Joined: 13 Dec 2007 Posts: 78
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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 6:17 am Post subject: Re: Hotwater, Coldwater, Freshwater |
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| ForensicGuy wrote: | Hotwater,
I must say I am happy to have an alternative to Coldwater. I was banned far too many times for referencing how our Founding Fathers set up our country. That strikes me as very strange. I didn't deal with Freshwater very much so I can't say much.
I am just happy to have a place where "The Truth" can be communicated. I look forward to seeing this discussion forum grow.
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Thank you ForensicGuy! I also look forward to having the discussion forum grow - we will be one week old tomorrow!  |
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JUSTICE1st

Joined: 13 Dec 2007 Posts: 715 Location: USA
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 5:06 am Post subject: Re: Hotwater, Coldwater, Freshwater |
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| ForensicGuy wrote: | Hotwater,
I must say I am happy to have an alternative to Coldwater. I was banned far too many times for referencing how our Founding Fathers set up our country. That strikes me as very strange. I didn't deal with Freshwater very much so I can't say much.
I am just happy to have a place where "The Truth" can be communicated. I look forward to seeing this discussion forum grow.
ForensicGuy |
I think I've been banned from CTV (now TTV) permanently, which is a disappointment to say the least. We at the Uncensored Justice System forum are almost one MONTH old now, and I hope we will grow significantly larger over the coming year. I love this forum!
Although I miss the TTV forum, it is a huge relief that I won't be kicked off THIS one because I'm too "pro defense" for some posters. Funny how some of the most die-hard law-and-order posters never consider the terrible possibility that being falsely or mistakenly accused of a serious crime CAN happen to them. If they bothered to read at least ONE of the books detailing the real-life situations of those who WERE wrongfully convicted, they might get a clue that the best defense is the only obstacle that stands between keeping their freedom and losing it!
Hope you'll come back soon, Forensic Guy, I feel like I've been talking to myself lately. That goes for everyone else too! Where IS everybody?
J  _________________ "We must remember, always, that accusation is not proof, and conviction depends on evidence and due process of law."
EDWARD R. MURROW, 1954 |
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ForensicGuy
Joined: 12 Dec 2007 Posts: 44
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 7:41 am Post subject: |
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Thanks Justice1st.
I'm still here. I haven't been posting much. I am about to get started again. I'm glad you have been here holding down the fort. |
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JUSTICE1st

Joined: 13 Dec 2007 Posts: 715 Location: USA
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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| ForensicGuy wrote: | Thanks Justice1st.
I'm still here. I haven't been posting much. I am about to get started again. I'm glad you have been here holding down the fort. |
Well, the holidays were pretty quiet for me, so I had lots of time to read related material and do some posting as well. For others, the holidays can be pretty hectic.
Now that we're out of holiday time, I hope we'll see many others come over to join in. As you said, what we need is a revolution of ideas, and the more people who contribute new ones for an improved, just and fair justice system, the better.
J  _________________ "We must remember, always, that accusation is not proof, and conviction depends on evidence and due process of law."
EDWARD R. MURROW, 1954 |
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ForensicGuy
Joined: 12 Dec 2007 Posts: 44
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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 3:41 am Post subject: |
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I think the only way to get that revolution of ideas is by educating people, like you have stated many times.
Besides what you suggested, I think one of the keys to successfully educating people about how things should be is to educate them about the Constitution. I’m talking about the higher reality that our Founding Fathers were trying to set up to allow us to evolve to perfection as a society and a people. There is a reason why this country became the #1 Super Power in the world. It is because of how the country was set up. There are concepts in the Constitution that have not been studied BY ANYONE, especially our alleged leaders. The Constitution really is and should be treated as a religious document. But, just like the Bible, it one of the most respected documents that no one has ever read.
For example, in the Constitution you will find the phrase "the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God". This phrase makes reference to a higher reality that our forefathers were aware of. They knew that as the Divine Offspring of the One God, it was "self-evident that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights", and that these Rights are absolutely necessary for the prodigal sons to evolve to perfection and return to the Edenic Kingdom of Origination. Moreover, the very purpose of government is to "secure these rights", and to actively assist all people to pursue their individual destiny. When government becomes "destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it". This is a God-Given Right!
As a Deist and Mason, Jefferson understood the Laws, and he knew that man would quickly move to corrupt the Constitutional foundation that was put in place thus, destroying what was divinely ordained and consecrated. The purpose of the Constitution was to limit government for the express God-Given right to insure the foundation of a free people.
The laws of man and the courts are our greatest threat to Liberty and Justice. Because the lawmakers, the lawyers, and the judges who followed after our Constitutional Forefathers did not understand what was described by our forefathers as the Laws of Nature and Natures God, and being ignorant of man's higher spiritual reality, they did not possess the knowledge of the Deists, Masons, and Jewish and Christian Visionaries they very quickly fell into Constitutional apostasy, undermined the Separation of Powers, the individual Unalienable Rights of a Sovereign and Free People, and over the course of time enslaved the people by empowering the federal government with powers that were denied it under the Constitution.
And while the United States of America remained a viable force for freedom throughout the world, and was able to fulfill its destiny as such, because the essence of the Constitution had become corrupted, the nation was severely handicapped with respect to its full potential as a true enlightening force in the world today.
Moreover, because our modern law makers and judges have absolutely no idea with respect to the Natural Laws that control every aspect of our lives in this world, these secular priests have so corrupted the original vision, that the destruction of our nation is drawing ever closer each day.
More than anything else, the Constitution was created in the endeavor to save man from his own ignorance!
No sooner does man create an institution, both secular and non-secular, than the very institutions that man creates turns upon the very people and principles they are intended to serve, and enslave the people.
In much the same way, while the United States has been a force of physical freedom in this world, it has in no manner attained to its true potential and purpose because its very Constitutional essence was quickly corrupted by the secular priests who altered the original intent of our nations forefathers.
Our forefathers who were Deists, like the Jewish and Christian Visionaries of past ages, perceived and comprehended the Laws of Nature and Nature's God. They understood that when man embraces the Divine Pattern of Creation in his life, his religion and community, and his government, that man grows and develops into an enlightened state. They were further well aware that the monarchies, feudal systems of government, and even the modern Social-Democracies of Europe that are still common today, all alienate man from not only his true potential of mind and spirit, but also from his true self and his Source of Being which is that aspect of God that exists at the very Essence and Core of our Being.
Developing into an enlightened state can't happen today because we have permitted the federal government to centralize power. We have permitted the judiciary to corrupt the separation of powers. And, we have allowed a form of social-democracy to homogenize not only the thinking of the people, but also the integrity of the communities. Resulting in the reality that we have not only dumbed down the people with respect to their true potential and alienated the people from both God and their true selves, but we have made ourselves apostates from the very Constitution that that our forefathers shed their blood to provide for their children and future generations.
Being an American is and should be a religious experience. It is not only knowing that people possess unalienable Rights that is their birthright as the offspring of our Creator God, but that our freedom and independence is directly in accordance with the freedom and independence we are willing to defend in the lives of our brothers and sisters.
In the immortal words of Thomas Paine: "Society in every state is a blessing, but Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one: for when we suffer, or are exposed to the same miseries BY A GOVERNMENT, which we might expect in a country WITHOUT GOVERNMENT, our calamity is heightened by reflecting that we furnish the means by which we suffer."
That the American people have permitted government to overgrow it's Constitutional bounds, and immerse itself as a controlling force in the life of every person, ever seeking to homogenize the thinking and differences among men and thereby bringing upon the people an amoeba level of thought in a spiritually disenfranchised society, is the failings of each individual American who has permitted themselves to be conquered and brought into slavery to the forces of ignorance and despair.
If people studied and knew and understood these concepts they would, by no means, stand for what is happening. They would know that allowing prosecutors to put people away unjustly in the name of “The People” means that they will be held accountable too, according to the Laws of Nature and Nature’s God. With nearly 90% of the people believing in a higher power, it should be no problem to see people act as they should, as the Constitution has layed out. But, instead we fight with each other over religious dogma and doctrine when we should be fighting over the trampling of the rights of our fellow Sons and Daughters of God. No matter what religion a person may choose to believe in, the fundamental teachings are the same….evolve to a higher and better level of thinking to get closer to your God. Our Forefathers knew that meant to protect the freedom and independence of our fellow brothers and sisters. Instead we have chosen to turn a blind eye to the evil and corruption because it is not “convenient”. We are too busy being narcissistic and thinking about what we can get out of this life. How much money we can make. How big of a house we can buy. What kind of car we drive. We spend our time watching worthless TV, messing with our Ipods, computers, cell phones and other things that do nothing to enlighten us. We don’t care. We think we are happy in this conquered state of slavery to the forces of ignorance and despair. We live comfortably. We must be happy.
The Constitution is trying to teach us one very concept that we, as a people, are not grasping….
Those who fail to oppose evil, especially when it is carried out in their name, must remain a part of that environment of evil until which time they are willing to oppose the evil that enslaves them, and do what is right! Those who are knowingly complacent to evil, will themselves be the next victim and suffer at the hands of the evil they closed their hearts and mind to! |
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awakening2lite
Joined: 08 Mar 2008 Posts: 11 Location: Planet Earth
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 4:16 pm Post subject: |
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| ForensicGuy, your post is both provocative and brilliant. I found myself thinking back on it, many times, over the last several days. |
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capri
Joined: 27 Jun 2008 Posts: 9
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 6:42 am Post subject: |
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| New here. I'd love to know who pays CW? She is the most unprofessional moderator of any board out there. It is mind blowing the biased she has and forget the TOS. Even if you follow them, she will ban you just because she can. She keeps those who break all the rules daily. What are the TOS for? It isn't for everyone. Who is her boss? They must not be paying much attention ever. |
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JUSTICE1st

Joined: 13 Dec 2007 Posts: 715 Location: USA
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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| capri wrote: | | New here. I'd love to know who pays CW? She is the most unprofessional moderator of any board out there. It is mind blowing the biased she has and forget the TOS. Even if you follow them, she will ban you just because she can. She keeps those who break all the rules daily. What are the TOS for? It isn't for everyone. Who is her boss? They must not be paying much attention ever. |
Hi Capri, and welcome! I don't have the answer to your question, but I hope you'll read some of the discussions at our other areas, and offer your views. It's been rather quiet here lately.
J  _________________ "We must remember, always, that accusation is not proof, and conviction depends on evidence and due process of law."
EDWARD R. MURROW, 1954 |
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capri
Joined: 27 Jun 2008 Posts: 9
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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| JUSTICE1st wrote: | | capri wrote: | | New here. I'd love to know who pays CW? She is the most unprofessional moderator of any board out there. It is mind blowing the biased she has and forget the TOS. Even if you follow them, she will ban you just because she can. She keeps those who break all the rules daily. What are the TOS for? It isn't for everyone. Who is her boss? They must not be paying much attention ever. |
Hi Capri, and welcome! I don't have the answer to your question, but I hope you'll read some of the discussions at our other areas, and offer your views. It's been rather quiet here lately.
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Thanks. I do pop in to read. Wonder why it has been so quiet? |
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SaberGal

Joined: 12 Dec 2007 Posts: 349 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 3:00 am Post subject: |
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| capri wrote: | | JUSTICE1st wrote: | | capri wrote: | | New here. I'd love to know who pays CW? She is the most unprofessional moderator of any board out there. It is mind blowing the biased she has and forget the TOS. Even if you follow them, she will ban you just because she can. She keeps those who break all the rules daily. What are the TOS for? It isn't for everyone. Who is her boss? They must not be paying much attention ever. |
Hi Capri, and welcome! I don't have the answer to your question, but I hope you'll read some of the discussions at our other areas, and offer your views. It's been rather quiet here lately.
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Thanks. I do pop in to read. Wonder why it has been so quiet? |
Hi Capri... welcome aboard! I can't answer your previous question either but I am glad you are here and can relate to your frustration regarding CW. A friend of mine was banned over there for quoting Benjamin Franklin....  _________________ "Evil triumphs when good men do nothing."
- E. Burke
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That's OK. I wasn't using my civil liberties anyway. (Insert rolly eye emoticon here) |
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capri
Joined: 27 Jun 2008 Posts: 9
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Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 12:20 pm Post subject: |
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| SaberGal wrote: | | capri wrote: | | JUSTICE1st wrote: | | capri wrote: | | New here. I'd love to know who pays CW? She is the most unprofessional moderator of any board out there. It is mind blowing the biased she has and forget the TOS. Even if you follow them, she will ban you just because she can. She keeps those who break all the rules daily. What are the TOS for? It isn't for everyone. Who is her boss? They must not be paying much attention ever. |
Hi Capri, and welcome! I don't have the answer to your question, but I hope you'll read some of the discussions at our other areas, and offer your views. It's been rather quiet here lately.
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Thanks. I do pop in to read. Wonder why it has been so quiet? |
Hi Capri... welcome aboard! I can't answer your previous question either but I am glad you are here and can relate to your frustration regarding CW. A friend of mine was banned over there for quoting Benjamin Franklin....  |
Thanks for the welcome. Now that banning sounds ridiculous. I believe that poor excuse for a moderator looks to ban people who don't kiss her butt I suppose. Whomever her boss is needs to see just how bad of a moderator she is. |
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RayStar

Joined: 14 Dec 2007 Posts: 52 Location: Detroit, MI
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Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 11:03 pm Post subject: Losing posts |
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When I first saw your comment about CW, Capri, I thought I will not comment. However, that passed swiftly today. Sunday I had 809 posts. This morning I had 756 and at 6:21pm est I have 708. I have no idea what is happening.
Welcome to this site. |
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JUSTICE1st

Joined: 13 Dec 2007 Posts: 715 Location: USA
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Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 3:34 am Post subject: Re: Losing posts |
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| RayStar wrote: | When I first saw your comment about CW, Capri, I thought I will not comment. However, that passed swiftly today. Sunday I had 809 posts. This morning I had 756 and at 6:21pm est I have 708. I have no idea what is happening.
Welcome to this site. |
Hi Ray! Nice to see you back here again. Regarding the disappearing posts, are you talking about the original I.S. message board? I can't understand why so many would be gone in such a short time.
J  _________________ "We must remember, always, that accusation is not proof, and conviction depends on evidence and due process of law."
EDWARD R. MURROW, 1954 |
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RayStar

Joined: 14 Dec 2007 Posts: 52 Location: Detroit, MI
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Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 11:14 am Post subject: Re: Losing posts |
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| JUSTICE1st wrote: | | RayStar wrote: | When I first saw your comment about CW, Capri, I thought I will not comment. However, that passed swiftly today. Sunday I had 809 posts. This morning I had 756 and at 6:21pm est I have 708. I have no idea what is happening.
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Hi Ray! Nice to see you back here again. Regarding the disappearing posts, are you talking about the original I.S. message board? I can't understand why so many would be gone in such a short time.
J  | Yes, I only noticed because with 1000 posts one gets senior added to the nic. I lost 100 posts in one day. I have not read any complaints from other posters however, I will start tracking other posters total post number. I am not a big poster as I have gotten beaten up far too often some deserved and some out of nowhere. It's okay I'm still here. I often check in Justice1st. Mostly I have no input so I read and leave. |
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