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PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 7:52 pm    Post subject: Little Room For Doubt Reply with quote

This is one of those terrible cases where I can't find any room for reasonable doubt. Ms. Anthony has been untruthful with police authorities too many times for me to find any part of her story credible. I was willing to give her the benefit of the doubt at first, but too many disturbing facts about her have now surfaced which make it impossible for me to go on doing that.

What say all of you on this case? Does anyone really believe at this point that little Caylee Anthony is alive? I find it very difficult to believe that myself, after all this time. I read the story which recently came out in PEOPLE Magazine, and it paints a very grim and sad picture.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have been following this case closely from the beginning...and my biggest problem with this case is the way it has been unabashedly tried in the press. Whenever LE and/or the prosecution feel the need to try a case in the press, it causes me to question the credibility of the entire investigation. I have no love for Casey....but no one deserves to have their case tried like this. It is my opinion that if all she was charged with were jaywalking, she'd be sent directly to the gallows even if the trial were on planet Mars.

I realize that Casey brought much of the public hatred for her by her own actions. But LE has leaked much prejudicial information that should have been saved for the courtroom, IMO, (the test results, phone calls, text messages, etc etc etc) - and using the "sunshine" laws saying they have no choice is blatantly false. Active criminal investigations are exempt from the sunshine laws so this information was leaked/released to further taint the jury pool.

And the 'live' re-arrest (the second one) during the Nancy Grace hour was blatant grandstanding by the OCSO. Especially considering that Baez had followed standard practice by offering to turn his client in if a new warrant was issued on the economic fraud charges. For them to tell Baez she would not be arrested until after the weekend, and then to come and arrest her during the live Nancy Grace show can be explained by nothing but ego and grandstanding.

Someone at the jail even leaked info regarding Casey's commissary account! GMAB! Although, I must say, Nancy Grace gave me a great laugh when she was talking about the two anonymous people who sent money to Casey for her commissary. Nancy Grace, outraged as usual, said that Casey can purchase, and I quote, "expensive lingerie and shrimp cocktail" from the jail's "extensive commissary menu." Now, admittedly, I don't know much about the county jail experience first-hand...but I would bet a million bucks that "expensive lingerie" is NOT available for purchase by inmates. I would further bet that 'shrimp cocktail'....if it IS on the menu, would probably give the inmates food poisoning were one brave enough to order it.

If Casey did something that caused Caylee's death, all of this misconduct is on permanent record. I fully expect Baez to file a prosecutorial misconduct motion. Assuming she will be convicted, she stands a good shot at winning an appeal down the road based on Pros misconduct, fair trial, etc etc etc. I guess I am just tired of guilty people walking and innocent people going to jail because LE and prosecutors do not follow the rules.

All JMO....looking forward to discussing this case!
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SaberGal wrote:
I have been following this case closely from the beginning...and my biggest problem with this case is the way it has been unabashedly tried in the press. Whenever LE and/or the prosecution feel the need to try a case in the press, it causes me to question the credibility of the entire investigation. I have no love for Casey....but no one deserves to have their case tried like this. It is my opinion that if all she was charged with were jaywalking, she'd be sent directly to the gallows even if the trial were on planet Mars.

I realize that Casey brought much of the public hatred for her by her own actions. But LE has leaked much prejudicial information that should have been saved for the courtroom, IMO, (the test results, phone calls, text messages, etc etc etc) - and using the "sunshine" laws saying they have no choice is blatantly false. Active criminal investigations are exempt from the sunshine laws so this information was leaked/released to further taint the jury pool.


You're 100% correct, Saber, and I'm sorry I allowed myself to get sucked in by the negative publicity. I humbly stand corrected. This is the same kind of negative publicity that was used in the infamous Duke Lacrosse case, and it almost got three completely INNOCENT young men convicted of a crime that they not only did NOT commit, but which never in fact happened. Can I admit I really screwed up this time and start over?

J Cool
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 6:39 pm    Post subject: Speculation v. Proof Reply with quote

Oops. I had intended to start a new topic with the "Speculation v. Proof" title, but hit the wrong button. I hate it when that happens. Embarassed

I transferred what was originally in this post onto the new thread title. I'll try to be more careful in future.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JUSTICE1st wrote:


You're 100% correct, Saber, and I'm sorry I allowed myself to get sucked in by the negative publicity. I humbly stand corrected. This is the same kind of negative publicity that was used in the infamous Duke Lacrosse case, and it almost got three completely INNOCENT young men convicted of a crime that they not only did NOT commit, but which never in fact happened. Can I admit I really screwed up this time and start over?

J Cool


Oh please don't think I was trying to correct you! Everyone has their opinions on this case and mine is most definitely in the minority! I am truly fascinated by the blatant jury tainting I perceive happening in this case. And it just makes me wonder...if LE feels the need to employ these tactics, how strong is the evidence really? Casey could be guilty as sin....I just don't know.

This case reminds me a little of the Sabrina Aisenberg case. Remember those 'wire taps' that were released to the press where the public was told that the parents were on tape talking to each other about Sabrina dying, that they should stick to their story etc etc etc....the public was ready to string them up and skin them alive. But it turns out, the only thing on those "shocking" tapes was static. This was the state's evidence....static filled tapes.

And let's not forget the Jon Benet Ramsey murder....even with the new DNA tests and the prosecutor's letter to Mr Ramsey over the summer exonerating the entire family, such a successful hatchet job was done to the Ramsey's that there are still people who refuse to accept that the Ramsey's had nothing to do with it! It's infuriating!

If Casey did something to Caylee, then I want to see her punished to the fullest extent the law allows...and I don't want her getting off on appeal because LE/Pros couldn't resist the urge in a high-profile case to cater to their own egos and career ambitions....and whatever other motives they have.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SaberGal wrote:
JUSTICE1st wrote:


You're 100% correct, Saber, and I'm sorry I allowed myself to get sucked in by the negative publicity. I humbly stand corrected. This is the same kind of negative publicity that was used in the infamous Duke Lacrosse case, and it almost got three completely INNOCENT young men convicted of a crime that they not only did NOT commit, but which never in fact happened. Can I admit I really screwed up this time and start over?

J Cool


Oh please don't think I was trying to correct you! Everyone has their opinions on this case and mine is most definitely in the minority! I am truly fascinated by the blatant jury tainting I perceive happening in this case. And it just makes me wonder...if LE feels the need to employ these tactics, how strong is the evidence really? Casey could be guilty as sin....I just don't know.

This case reminds me a little of the Sabrina Aisenberg case. Remember those 'wire taps' that were released to the press where the public was told that the parents were on tape talking to each other about Sabrina dying, that they should stick to their story etc etc etc....the public was ready to string them up and skin them alive. But it turns out, the only thing on those "shocking" tapes was static. This was the state's evidence....static filled tapes.

And let's not forget the Jon Benet Ramsey murder....even with the new DNA tests and the prosecutor's letter to Mr Ramsey over the summer exonerating the entire family, such a successful hatchet job was done to the Ramsey's that there are still people who refuse to accept that the Ramsey's had nothing to do with it! It's infuriating!

If Casey did something to Caylee, then I want to see her punished to the fullest extent the law allows...and I don't want her getting off on appeal because LE/Pros couldn't resist the urge in a high-profile case to cater to their own egos and career ambitions....and whatever other motives they have.


I agree with everything, and if she did something to her daughter, I also want to see her punished to the fullest extent of the law. And if she did, it doesn't help anyone when L.E. cuts corners and engages in questionable tactics to "solve" a high-profile case.

While I can understand L.E.'s frustration in not being able to find little Caylee, I can also see how theories of what MIGHT have happened will have everyone guessing. But we know that guessing ISN'T proof, and proof is what the state MUST have to convict someone.

J Cool
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