Uncensored Justice System Discussion    FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  OJ Audio Tapes          Uncensored Justice System Discussion Forum Index -> O. J. Simpson View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message JUSTICE1st Joined: 13 Dec 2007 Posts: 715 Location: USA Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 4:59 pm    Post subject: OJ Audio Tapes I don't know about anyone else, but in the very first tape the prosecutor played in his opening statement, the one of the actual robbery, I couldn't hear ANYTHING clearly! It all sounded like gibberish to me, a bunch of voices blended together. I guess I'd have to hear it more than once before any of it made sense. Or maybe I need to get my hearing checked, I don't know. Not all of them are this garbled, though. There was a tape of the alleged conspiracy to commit the robbery, which was a bit clearer. I will say if there was anything about bringing guns or "packing heat," I missed it. J _________________ "We must remember, always, that accusation is not proof, and conviction depends on evidence and due process of law." EDWARD R. MURROW, 1954 Back to top Pia Joined: 12 Dec 2007 Posts: 208 Location: www.freecynthia.com Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 8:27 pm    Post subject: Not only that but Chris Owens wouldn't shut up while they were playing... If they think they are going to convict him with these tapes, I think they have a problem. On the other hand, I don't think they need anything to convict him. The past thirteen years have already secured that conviction. _________________ Justice is conscience, not a personal conscience but the conscience of the whole of humanity. Those who clearly recognize the voice of their own conscience usually recognize also the voice of justice. Alexander Solzhenitsyn Back to top JUSTICE1st Joined: 13 Dec 2007 Posts: 715 Location: USA Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 3:16 am    Post subject: Pia wrote: Not only that but Chris Owens wouldn't shut up while they were playing...If they think they are going to convict him with these tapes, I think they have a problem. If that's all they're relying on, I agree. I was also a bit puzzled why the prosecutor kept talking while the tape was playing. How is the jury supposed to hear what is being said (or in this case yelled) on the tape when he is talking above it? My first thought after hearing the tape was "What the hell are they SAYING?!" Even Beth Karas said it, "a cacaphony," which to me means a whole lot of noise and not much else. J _________________ "We must remember, always, that accusation is not proof, and conviction depends on evidence and due process of law." EDWARD R. MURROW, 1954 Back to top SaberGal Joined: 12 Dec 2007 Posts: 349 Location: Oregon Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 5:47 pm    Post subject: JUSTICE1st wrote: Pia wrote: Not only that but Chris Owens wouldn't shut up while they were playing...If they think they are going to convict him with these tapes, I think they have a problem. If that's all they're relying on, I agree. I was also a bit puzzled why the prosecutor kept talking while the tape was playing. How is the jury supposed to hear what is being said (or in this case yelled) on the tape when he is talking above it? My first thought after hearing the tape was "What the hell are they SAYING?!" Even Beth Karas said it, "a cacaphony," which to me means a whole lot of noise and not much else. J Not able to watch the trial - are these the same tapes that were released just after his arrest when this first happened? Or are these different tapes? _________________ "Evil triumphs when good men do nothing." - E. Burke __________________________________________ That's OK. I wasn't using my civil liberties anyway. (Insert rolly eye emoticon here) Back to top JUSTICE1st Joined: 13 Dec 2007 Posts: 715 Location: USA Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 7:07 pm    Post subject: SaberGal wrote: JUSTICE1st wrote: Pia wrote: Not only that but Chris Owens wouldn't shut up while they were playing...If they think they are going to convict him with these tapes, I think they have a problem. If that's all they're relying on, I agree. I was also a bit puzzled why the prosecutor kept talking while the tape was playing. How is the jury supposed to hear what is being said (or in this case yelled) on the tape when he is talking above it? My first thought after hearing the tape was "What the hell are they SAYING?!" Even Beth Karas said it, "a cacaphony," which to me means a whole lot of noise and not much else. J Not able to watch the trial - are these the same tapes that were released just after his arrest when this first happened? Or are these different tapes? I THINK these are the same tapes, Saber, but I could be mistaken there. It seems there were several tapes made, and I hadn't heard the previous ones in a while before the trial. But I had the same reaction to the actual robbery tape listening to it the first time; I couldn't hear anything clearly at all, with all that yelling going on. J _________________ "We must remember, always, that accusation is not proof, and conviction depends on evidence and due process of law." EDWARD R. MURROW, 1954 Back to top SaberGal Joined: 12 Dec 2007 Posts: 349 Location: Oregon Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 8:34 pm    Post subject: JUSTICE1st wrote: SaberGal wrote: JUSTICE1st wrote: Pia wrote: Not only that but Chris Owens wouldn't shut up while they were playing...If they think they are going to convict him with these tapes, I think they have a problem. If that's all they're relying on, I agree. I was also a bit puzzled why the prosecutor kept talking while the tape was playing. How is the jury supposed to hear what is being said (or in this case yelled) on the tape when he is talking above it? My first thought after hearing the tape was "What the hell are they SAYING?!" Even Beth Karas said it, "a cacaphony," which to me means a whole lot of noise and not much else. J Not able to watch the trial - are these the same tapes that were released just after his arrest when this first happened? Or are these different tapes? I THINK these are the same tapes, Saber, but I could be mistaken there. It seems there were several tapes made, and I hadn't heard the previous ones in a while before the trial. But I had the same reaction to the actual robbery tape listening to it the first time; I couldn't hear anything clearly at all, with all that yelling going on. J Yes, the ones that were leaked first were very hard to understand. I was quite amazed that they could distinguish what was exactly said much less who was who. I have always thought that it was very convenient that a tape was made of it...just one of those things that makes one wonder. [/i] _________________ "Evil triumphs when good men do nothing." - E. Burke __________________________________________ That's OK. I wasn't using my civil liberties anyway. (Insert rolly eye emoticon here) Back to top Pia Joined: 12 Dec 2007 Posts: 208 Location: www.freecynthia.com Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 11:29 pm    Post subject: From what I understand there are many tapes. Not sure what they were playing or even testifying about today. To tell you the truth I am having a hard time keeping up because the sound isn't very good on my end. I am looking forward to hearing the sleaze ball on cross… _________________ Justice is conscience, not a personal conscience but the conscience of the whole of humanity. Those who clearly recognize the voice of their own conscience usually recognize also the voice of justice. Alexander Solzhenitsyn Back to top JUSTICE1st Joined: 13 Dec 2007 Posts: 715 Location: USA Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 1:42 am    Post subject: Pia wrote: From what I understand there are many tapes. Not sure what they were playing or even testifying about today. To tell you the truth I am having a hard time keeping up because the sound isn't very good on my end. I am looking forward to hearing the sleaze ball on cross… So am I! Um....wait a minute, Pia....WHICH sleaze ball were you referring to? I'm assuming you meant Tom Riccio, but in this case, there are enough to keep me guessing. J _________________ "We must remember, always, that accusation is not proof, and conviction depends on evidence and due process of law." EDWARD R. MURROW, 1954 Back to top Pia Joined: 12 Dec 2007 Posts: 208 Location: www.freecynthia.com Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 12:10 pm    Post subject: JUSTICE1st wrote: Pia wrote: From what I understand there are many tapes. Not sure what they were playing or even testifying about today. To tell you the truth I am having a hard time keeping up because the sound isn't very good on my end. I am looking forward to hearing the sleaze ball on cross… So am I! Um....wait a minute, Pia....WHICH sleaze ball were you referring to? I'm assuming you meant Tom Riccio, but in this case, there are enough to keep me guessing. J So true, but yes Riccio was the one I was referring to... _________________ Justice is conscience, not a personal conscience but the conscience of the whole of humanity. Those who clearly recognize the voice of their own conscience usually recognize also the voice of justice. Alexander Solzhenitsyn Back to top SaberGal Joined: 12 Dec 2007 Posts: 349 Location: Oregon Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 4:25 pm    Post subject: OK....so....I actually got to watch this a bit on Friday - anyone else find it suspicious that there is so much audio of this?? _________________ "Evil triumphs when good men do nothing." - E. Burke __________________________________________ That's OK. I wasn't using my civil liberties anyway. (Insert rolly eye emoticon here) Back to top JUSTICE1st Joined: 13 Dec 2007 Posts: 715 Location: USA Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 7:48 pm    Post subject: SaberGal wrote: OK....so....I actually got to watch this a bit on Friday - anyone else find it suspicious that there is so much audio of this?? I do! To me, the whole case screams, SET UP! Then there's the whole issue of recordings made from portable digital recording devices questionable at best and unreliable because of possible altering at worst. I remember last week (9/16 or 9/17, I think) when the judge asked the FBI audio examiner a specific question about that issue. Something like, "so what you're saying is that you cannot say with absolute certainty that the tape was NOT altered, right?" And the examiner's reply was "Yes, ma'am." What puzzles me is that Judge Glass allowed it in anyway, given the examiner's answer. I don't understand why a questionable and possibly unreliable recording would be allowed into evidence, but that's just me. Darn, I wish we had a criminal defense attorney on this forum! I'm starting to get a little muddled. J _________________ "We must remember, always, that accusation is not proof, and conviction depends on evidence and due process of law." EDWARD R. MURROW, 1954 Back to top SaberGal Joined: 12 Dec 2007 Posts: 349 Location: Oregon Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 4:57 pm    Post subject: JUSTICE1st wrote: SaberGal wrote: OK....so....I actually got to watch this a bit on Friday - anyone else find it suspicious that there is so much audio of this?? I do! To me, the whole case screams, SET UP! Then there's the whole issue of recordings made from portable digital recording devices questionable at best and unreliable because of possible altering at worst. I remember last week (9/16 or 9/17, I think) when the judge asked the FBI audio examiner a specific question about that issue. Something like, "so what you're saying is that you cannot say with absolute certainty that the tape was NOT altered, right?" And the examiner's reply was "Yes, ma'am." What puzzles me is that Judge Glass allowed it in anyway, given the examiner's answer. I don't understand why a questionable and possibly unreliable recording would be allowed into evidence, but that's just me. Darn, I wish we had a criminal defense attorney on this forum! I'm starting to get a little muddled. J My opinion is that LE wants to nail OJ at any cost, questionable/reliable evidence or not. Don't get me wrong....my heart doesn't hurt for OJ one bit. His own actions have dictated the course of his life. However, I don't like to see justice dispensed unfairly. I find it very suspicious that people would make so much audio of their crime and, as I said earlier, no way would there be a kidnapping charge if this were any other defendant. MOO _________________ "Evil triumphs when good men do nothing." - E. Burke __________________________________________ That's OK. I wasn't using my civil liberties anyway. (Insert rolly eye emoticon here) Back to top JUSTICE1st Joined: 13 Dec 2007 Posts: 715 Location: USA Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 6:34 pm    Post subject: SaberGal wrote: JUSTICE1st wrote: SaberGal wrote: OK....so....I actually got to watch this a bit on Friday - anyone else find it suspicious that there is so much audio of this?? I do! To me, the whole case screams, SET UP! Then there's the whole issue of recordings made from portable digital recording devices questionable at best and unreliable because of possible altering at worst. I remember last week (9/16 or 9/17, I think) when the judge asked the FBI audio examiner a specific question about that issue. Something like, "so what you're saying is that you cannot say with absolute certainty that the tape was NOT altered, right?" And the examiner's reply was "Yes, ma'am." What puzzles me is that Judge Glass allowed it in anyway, given the examiner's answer. I don't understand why a questionable and possibly unreliable recording would be allowed into evidence, but that's just me. Darn, I wish we had a criminal defense attorney on this forum! I'm starting to get a little muddled. J My opinion is that LE wants to nail OJ at any cost, questionable/reliable evidence or not. Don't get me wrong....my heart doesn't hurt for OJ one bit. His own actions have dictated the course of his life. However, I don't like to see justice dispensed unfairly. I find it very suspicious that people would make so much audio of their crime and, as I said earlier, no way would there be a kidnapping charge if this were any other defendant. MOO Totally agree, and I don't have any liking or respect for the man either. But what scares me is the lengths law enforcement will go to in order to "nail" a person they don't like, no matter who that person is. 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