Uncensored Justice System Discussion    FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Trial          Uncensored Justice System Discussion Forum Index -> Mark Jensen View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message RayStar Joined: 14 Dec 2007 Posts: 52 Location: Detroit, MI Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 10:47 pm    Post subject: Trial If what I saw today is any indication of his guilt he is in deep d. Back to top JUSTICE1st Joined: 13 Dec 2007 Posts: 715 Location: USA Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 5:05 am    Post subject: Re: Trial RayStar wrote: If what I saw today is any indication of his guilt he is in deep d. I wasn't able to see much after both the opening statements from both prosecution and defense. Did any prosecution witnesses testify yesterday, and if so, which ones? Right now, I couldn't reach any conclusions one way or the other, there are still too many unanswered questions for me. I will say it's a very tough case, though, for both sides. I'll be watching more of the trial tomorrow. J _________________ "We must remember, always, that accusation is not proof, and conviction depends on evidence and due process of law." EDWARD R. MURROW, 1954 Back to top SaberGal Joined: 12 Dec 2007 Posts: 349 Location: Oregon Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 8:46 am    Post subject: This is definately a strange case and I look forward the trial. You are right, J, that this is going to be a tough one for both sides. My problem with the State's theory is that if I truly believed my husband was poisoning me, (especially after learning of his affair), and believed it so much as to tell people, including LE about it...and going so far as to write a letter to be opened in the event of my death, I'm not sure I'd be sticking around waiting to die. But my problem with the defense's theory - that I poisoned myself to death in order to frame my husband doesn't make much sense to me either. Being poisoned to death is an extremely painful and slow way to commit suicide. But of course...that's just me. I can't really say because I wasn't in her shoes so who knows. The trial should be very interesting to say the least.... _________________ "Evil triumphs when good men do nothing." - E. Burke __________________________________________ That's OK. I wasn't using my civil liberties anyway. (Insert rolly eye emoticon here) Back to top JUSTICE1st Joined: 13 Dec 2007 Posts: 715 Location: USA Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 12:41 pm    Post subject: SaberGal wrote: This is definately a strange case and I look forward the trial. You are right, J, that this is going to be a tough one for both sides. My problem with the State's theory is that if I truly believed my husband was poisoning me, (especially after learning of his affair), and believed it so much as to tell people, including LE about it...and going so far as to write a letter to be opened in the event of my death, I'm not sure I'd be sticking around waiting to die. But my problem with the defense's theory - that I poisoned myself to death in order to frame my husband doesn't make much sense to me either. Being poisoned to death is an extremely painful and slow way to commit suicide. But of course...that's just me. I can't really say because I wasn't in her shoes so who knows. The trial should be very interesting to say the least.... Exactly. I have problems with BOTH sides of the case, and that doesn't usually happen. In the prosecution's opening statement, Mr. Jambois (sp?) referred to online conversations between Mark Jensen and Ed (I forget his last name now) about Jensen supposedly saying he wanted to kill his wife. I have to wonder, were there any WRITTEN printouts of these so-called conversations? Because THAT would be convincing evidence of his guilt, for me anyway. If there aren't any written printouts, it's just hearsay to me. J _________________ "We must remember, always, that accusation is not proof, and conviction depends on evidence and due process of law." EDWARD R. MURROW, 1954 Back to top poodle Joined: 22 Dec 2007 Posts: 3 Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 1:53 pm    Post subject: these were not online conversations with Ed. they were DRUNK conversations with Ed while on a business trip. Back to top poodle Joined: 22 Dec 2007 Posts: 3 Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 3:40 pm    Post subject: next witnesses just heard on tv that ed and his wife will be testifying next after this dr. Back to top JUSTICE1st Joined: 13 Dec 2007 Posts: 715 Location: USA Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 6:38 pm    Post subject: Re: next witnesses poodle wrote: just heard on tv that ed and his wife will be testifying next after this dr. Well, Ed has been a total disaster IMO, I'm just wondering if his wife is going to sink him or try to keep him from going under. J _________________ "We must remember, always, that accusation is not proof, and conviction depends on evidence and due process of law." EDWARD R. MURROW, 1954 Back to top RayStar Joined: 14 Dec 2007 Posts: 52 Location: Detroit, MI Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 10:50 am    Post subject: Julie I think he is guilty. I truly believe Julie thought he loved her. Her self-esteem must have been very low. It is like abused women who stay. It took my ex to think he was Mike Tyson before I decided to give him his walking papers. 20 yrs. of marriage 7-bliss 13 total H Also, sometimes women think it will be better for the kids. WRONG Well, perhaps financially she was trapped. Really, I don't think some people have the will power and who wants to believe their spouse is trying to kill them? Back to top JUSTICE1st Joined: 13 Dec 2007 Posts: 715 Location: USA Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 6:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Julie RayStar wrote: I think he is guilty. I truly believe Julie thought he loved her. Her self-esteem must have been very low. It is like abused women who stay. It took my ex to think he was Mike Tyson before I decided to give him his walking papers. 20 yrs. of marriage 7-bliss 13 total H Also, sometimes women think it will be better for the kids. WRONG Well, perhaps financially she was trapped. Really, I don't think some people have the will power and who wants to believe their spouse is trying to kill them? Yes, he could be guilty. But for me the prosecution has not proved its case beyond a reasonable doubt. As to your last question, she already believed he might be trying to kill her, the prosecution made that point more than once. She talked to her kids' teacher, and I think one or two other people about it as well. I'm not sure what family Mrs. Jensen had, but if she did, couldn't she have notified them as well, and made arrangements to stay with one of them? There are still too many questions for me to decide as to whether he is guilty or not. J _________________ "We must remember, always, that accusation is not proof, and conviction depends on evidence and due process of law." EDWARD R. MURROW, 1954 Back to top Pia Joined: 12 Dec 2007 Posts: 208 Location: www.freecynthia.com Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 10:32 pm    Post subject: I haven't really been paying much attention to this trial...Just listening in the background. I do not know enough to make a judgment of his guilt or innocence...However, today I was perplexed when I heard Jami and her guests talking about this letter Julie wrote before she died.... How the heck did the prosecutor get this in? I realize the judge says because the law states if the defendant did something to cause the person not to be able to testify then the letter can be allowed. But what this defendant is accused of is KILLING the letter writer...As Jami and the others said...isn't the man still presumed innocent UNTIL he is convicted....If he is convicted (it doesn't look too good) then if this is not appealable, just what is? People talk about how defense attorneys like to twist and spin things....The spinning of this particular law is one of the biggest I have seen since Laura Gunn did her little number last year. _________________ Justice is conscience, not a personal conscience but the conscience of the whole of humanity. 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